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mndexp


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08-02-08, 06:05 am
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What would happens if you block all of the world input from a human brain for a long period of time. What would happen if a working brain stoped receiving signals from the eyes, ears, nerves,taste etc... for a couple hours..

So i actualy tried a homemade version of this and here is what happened :

I wasnt able to block all of my sense (wich would be impossible for me, just think about taste...) but I was able to cover my eyes and block my ears and lay down in a dark quiet place for an hour...

Then I started thinking about words and automaticly i started seeing associated images and memories as usual.. but i found out it was far more easy for me to travel in my mind and i had more "control" over where i wanted to go...

Now im thinking if scientist would try a real version of this et try it on a 1 day period im thinking the person could "visit" his mind in a way he never did... maybe access part of the mind we usualy cant because of the world intereference getting in the brain...

I have another question too... if the whole memory/prediction system of the cortex is driven by the senses does it means that if you block all of the senses the mind would "stand still" because it is not stimulated from the sense ? if not, doest that mean we actualy have some sort of inner control of our mind not linked with external inputs... ?
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08-28-08, 07:10 am
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Find a float center and try the sensory deprivation tank. Read John Lilly's : The Center of the Cyclone. And of course watch the movie, Altered States. Maintain.

Float center site: http://www.floatfinder.com/
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07-19-09, 11:50 pm
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katzky wrote:
◘→`Experimenting on what.?
That word could fit many thoughts...! Confused
Indeed. Any come to mind? http://books.google.com/books?id=HOjQySQLbS8C&dq=Experiment+in+Depth&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=hB0-VeVSnd&sig=pvQZZVITby7obTTc8T8yFWHMi3o&hl=en&ei=BSFkSv-8LKqmtgf2qp33Dw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3 deals with exploring the deep unconscious on many levels thru the work of Jung, Toynbee, and Eliot.










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07-26-09, 10:50 pm
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cool post dude.....

hi beth are you okay...?


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08-02-09, 10:11 am
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freshlumpia00 wrote:
Yeah, very broad word... Does it include experiment on feelings?
The Experiment in Depth is an endeavor of a lifetime.

Feelings. The impetus, the drive that pushes actions. Emotions. When a conflict of some type occurs in the conscious world it is based in the unconscious. Should conflicts continue or remain irreconcilable, ignoring them is counterproductive. The effects remain. An eruption of the unconscious into consciousness by a dream, perhaps, is indicative of the power and ties to that ancient base that we ignore at our peril.

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Experiment in Depth by P.W. Martin
Chapter X: Dangers and Destinations. First three paragraphs.

The experiment in depth concerns everyone, but it is not for everyone to undertake. The way is dangerous. It demands of a man that he obey the injunction 'Become what thou art'; and to this end leads him to his own encounter. What he will find there, no one can know in advance. This much, though, is reasonably certain. Wholeness has to proceed against the heaviest of odds: The values, habit-patterns, attitudes, laid down by earlier conditioning in a society where the creative contact has been to a great extent lost. Individuation does not begin with a tabula rasa, but with a personality more or less malformed.

Beyond lies the deep unconscious. Here, all is at the hazard. As Jung has said, there are those who go digging for an artesian well and come instead upon a volcano. Cumulated upon this uncertainty is the harsh fact that our knowledge of the other side of consciousness is still, for the most part, in the earliest stage of hypothesis. Much of it may be wide of the mark, some completely mistaken. It is not only that the beaten way does not as yet exist. Such track as there is may be deceptive. A man takes it at his peril. In making the experiment in depth there are bound to be casualties, casualties that could not reasonably be forseen. It is well to realize that one's own name may figure among them.

But there is also the positive side. The unconscious is not fundamentally a menace, a source of fear and misgiving. It is the wellspring of life, both for the individual and for the peoples of the world. At present we are cut off from it; and worse than cut off, exposed to the utmost peril. Little as we may like it, we of the present century have no choice but to live dangerously, the threat of mass destruction over all our heads. Those who have the psychological strength and stamina to undertake the withdrawal-and-return--to live dangerously to some purpose--are the fortunate ones. Whether or not a creative minority comes into existence as a result of their efforts, they live.

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09-30-09, 02:56 am
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You'd wind up with an imbecile (or else the human equivalent of a reptile or the mammalian communicative equivalent of a dog) if it went on for very long.

There are chronicles of children deprived of other humans to communicate with. After a certain age, such children become unable to acquire, through temperance, inclination, or inability the gifts of reading, writing, and/or articulate intelligible communication.

This is partly the reason why computers, able only to manipulate symbols and switch and/or manipulate data and shunt it back and forth between the intelligent (or sometimes only semi-intelligent) entities who sit at their keyboards and monitor screens, are virtually barren of the property we call "intelligence".
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